martha: what about john boehner's role in all of this? i'm curious about who the faces and voices are that we'll be watching closely as they try to hash this out. >> john boehner is also a very fine man, and congressman from ohio, good family, good background, good man. he's in a very tough spot. he could do a compromise without getting the agreement of people like cantor and ryan, he could do it, but i think he'd be very mistaken to do that. he could get 50, 60, 70 republicans in the house to move and vote with the democrats, but i don't think he should do something like that. i think the republicans should stick to their principles, free market, progrowth supply side economics and let the chips fall where they may and that's what i think john boehner should do. martha: thank you, art. saying that people involved are good men and they should be able to get in there and work this out and it wasn't a bad election to lose and you're optimistic about the future. bill: you know what didn't stop throughout the elections. martha: what? bill: ca